Posts by concerned mama

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I just can't do it!!!

by WantTheTruth in

i have been involved with a girl who is of the jw faith; although things have pretty much ended between us... due to her being disfellowshipped for the way we acted together (although she has recently been accepted back).. she did make me think about things... and consider her religion.

however, i think i have come to my senses.... a few things about the religion seem wrong to me... the whole watchtower thing (false prophet), being baptised into the organisation, the subject of blood and the little evidence they seem to have to back this up, the 'new light' etc.. i would really like more information to present to this girl in order to:.

1) show her that it really is not right for me; with good/ unquestionable reasons why;.

concerned mama

....since I can't edit,

Change "disgust" to "disgust and great sadness" in the second last paragraph.

They had been close friends, and it is always sad to lose a friend.

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I just can't do it!!!

by WantTheTruth in

i have been involved with a girl who is of the jw faith; although things have pretty much ended between us... due to her being disfellowshipped for the way we acted together (although she has recently been accepted back).. she did make me think about things... and consider her religion.

however, i think i have come to my senses.... a few things about the religion seem wrong to me... the whole watchtower thing (false prophet), being baptised into the organisation, the subject of blood and the little evidence they seem to have to back this up, the 'new light' etc.. i would really like more information to present to this girl in order to:.

1) show her that it really is not right for me; with good/ unquestionable reasons why;.

concerned mama

Hi WantTheTruth,

My teenage daughter and her JW ex-boyfriend rehashed those same issues head over a couple of weeks a short time ago by e mail. He was convinced that still had a future together, and she KNOWS they don't. Of course, since she is still fond of him there was a lingering hope that she could shake his faith in the WT, and I rather suspect that he feels that if she would only find "the truth" she would once again be part of his life and all their problems would be solved. I would say that it was really a mutual conversion attempt, she to "free" him, he to "save" her. It wasn't done out of malice, rather the leftover affection of a long relationship.

It became extremely heated. When what she said made sense to him, he changed the subject. They went from "obey, submission and headship" through "child abuse" and finally hit the wall over "blood transfusions". She used the scenario that if they had married, had a child, and the child hit by a car and was bleeding internally. She told him he had to think for himself and not use whatever some Professor in a Blood Video said, because the doctor was the one treating the child, not some guy in a video. The imaginary doctor in ER said "Let us give the child blood or we will lose him in the next 5 minutes." My daughter asked her ex-bf if he was there with the child would he say "yes or no". After slipping and sliding and trying to avoid answering, he couldn't say "yes". She told him that he let their child die. He freaked and got very angry with her. He said that the answer she wanted him to give went against everything he had been taught his whole life. He couldn't take that step.

I suspect you will find some of the same things. When you can show her things that are wrong with the "organization" she will change the subject or become angry with you. There won't be logic in her reasoning. Unless by some chance she is ready to hear it, those mind shutters come down the closer you are to getting her to touch reality. You will likely be hitting your head on a brick wall. Maybe for your own sense of closure you have to do it.

She left the computer and walked over to me and said with disgust "He seems so normal in person!." One great thing came out of all that "discussion". She had become very upset and stressed about all this bickering and his lack of understanding of reality. She told me he made some comments about how he didn't like the person she was becoming, too strong and assertive, and made some cracks about her family. She FINALLY decided there was no point in having someone in her life who was making her so miserable and physically sick and it was time to get some control, so she cut him off completely. She needed to hear his self righteous strange beliefs right from him, not a guess about them from just a forum or her mother, but in doing so it gave her the strength to see him as he really is.

It is the healthiest thing for both of them, to finally get over each other, to heal and move on. I hope that the same good things happen to you.

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all this @#$%^& snow is driving me loony!

by willdabeerman in

jw
friends

man all this freakin snow is enough to drive someone insane!.

i am so tired of being at home and cooped up in this house im about to lose it.

dont get me wrong i love my family,but after being inside with lisa and my girl baby.

concerned mama

You need to go outside and shovel for awhile to let off some of that frusteration.....

or

try cross country skiing.

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Birthday Party Etiquette Question

by awoke in

i need some feedback.

my son turned five years old today (yea!

) and due to recent financial problems, we are having his birthday party on this coming saturday (instead of this past weekend).

concerned mama

Hi Awoke,

Since I have never been JW I have had lots of birthday parties for my kids. I would have it earlier in the afternoon if you can, as 5 year olds get more tired and wired late in the day. If you want to serve food, all I ever did was hot dogs and chips or something inexpensive plus the cake and ice cream. The kids are too excited and having too much fun to eat much anyway. You got some wonderful suggestions from everyone else. Be careful with nuts as so many kids are allergic.

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When householders take the mags

by Sadie5 in

jw
friends

there is a homemaking type board that i visit and some of the ladies there were complaining about jws that just keep coming back.

being nice, they had accepted the mags and then threw them in the trash.

one ladies noticed that the same jw showed up every few weeks with a different person and gave her the new magazines.

concerned mama

Hi Christian Observer,

Sorry, since I am not JW, I have no idea how much they cost. That's something I have always been curious about as well. I will ask someone when I have the opportunity.

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When householders take the mags

by Sadie5 in

jw
friends

there is a homemaking type board that i visit and some of the ladies there were complaining about jws that just keep coming back.

being nice, they had accepted the mags and then threw them in the trash.

one ladies noticed that the same jw showed up every few weeks with a different person and gave her the new magazines.

concerned mama

Sadie,

You are so right. I have told other outsiders about the JW magazine system, and what horrifies them the most is that the JWs have had to BUY those magazines from the Watchtower. Most worldlies think that they are provided free to the JWs to hand out, so feel badly when they realize that they have just chucked propaganda that was purchased by the door knocking JW's hard earned cash.

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Bethany Hughes appeal: The Judge's Reasoning

by expatbrit in

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friends

for the alberta children's hospital .

the director of child welfare was seeking an apprehension order and a medical treatment order because of the refusal by b.h.

judge jordan was correct in finding that the treatment recommended by the doctors is essential and the only curative treatment available.

concerned mama

Wow, I agree, Scully. I am so glad that the judge has put forth her reasoning so clearly. Although sadly, Bethany didn't survive, the legal ramifications of this case may make it easier to save the life of other minors.

Does anyone know how the poor father is doing?

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Just In: CP 5PM Feb. 6 Disclosing CDN Abuse Files

by reporter in

former jehovah's witnesses press church to disclose abuse files.

at 17:00 on february 6, 2003, est.. .

printable version send to a friend.

concerned mama

I wish more people would see this story. I think it would be so much more widely seen in the local newspapers. Most people don't read the news on line, so they? They flip through the paper while they drink their coffee or eat their lunch. Has anyone seen it in their local paper? I don't know much about the publishing industry, but they keep going after the Catholics here and ignoring this story. Does anyone know if there has been any newspaper coverage in Western Canada?

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Just In: CP 5PM Feb. 6 Disclosing CDN Abuse Files

by reporter in

former jehovah's witnesses press church to disclose abuse files.

at 17:00 on february 6, 2003, est.. .

printable version send to a friend.

concerned mama

It's wonderful to see some press coverage of this issue. The people mentioned in this article, Kim, Lee, Grace and Andrew, you are making a difference. I so respect your courage and determination in speaking out to protect children.

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My Biography (shamelessly long)...

by truthseekers2 in

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friends

i'm embarressed to no end on how long this ended up being, but i felt it all too important to leave anything out (and yes, i did delete some!

{blush} ).

my name is shauna.

concerned mama

Shauna, What a wonderful story of personal growth and courage. Thank you for sharing it. As an outsider, am always blown away by the personal courage it takes to examine all your religious beliefs, traditions and culture, and look reality in the face. I have so much respect for all of you who have made that incredible journey.